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Big Number Competition: Proof Edition

Started by Europe2048, Jun 29, 2024, 04:43:32 AM

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Europe2048

Say a number bigger than the last.

Rules:
  • You must provide a proof that your number is bigger than the last.
  • No infinities, uncomputable functions, or anything else that make the game boring.
  • Very large or small increments are not allowed.
  • If you used a function in one entry, nobody can use it anymore.

I'll start:
A googol.
Since this is the first number, no proof is needed.

PkmnQ

#2
Define F as:
F(2k+1, n) = n+k
F(2k, n) = F(k, F((2n+1)k, n))

F(16, 16) > 10^100
Will give proof tomorrow but it's still small enough to be calculatable in Python and can be easily seen to be greater than a googol that way
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TonyBrown148

I'll analyze PkmnQ's function before I make my own.
let g(k, n, x)=f(2^k (2n+1), x)
Then g(0, n, x)=n+x
g(k+1, n, x)=g(k, n, g(k, 2nx+n+x, x))
*See XKCD 1688.
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Europe2048

F has already been used before by PkmnQ.

TonyBrown148

#5
Quote from: Europe2048 on Jun 29, 2024, 04:59:42 PMF has already been used before by PkmnQ.
Did you read the first sentence? That post is NOT my submission.
Anyway, here's my submission:
ß_4(4), where ß_4 is the 4th function of the Eszett Hierarchy
Proof:
It can be verified easily that f(16,16)=246195764991809400615851757409678501609112226596897318241965487623462435376542940541565076088135382696945983127005479150515157329970534633628937426960395539934729289796096<10^1000
Then, 10^1000<16^1024=2^4096=2^2^12<2^2^16=2^2^2^2^2=2^^5<2^^65536=2^^2^^2^^2=2^^^4=ß_4(4)
*See XKCD 1688.
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PkmnQ

#6
Let's just quickly get rid of the factorials for no reason

Define supercoolfactorialsequence!!!n as follows:
supercoolfactorialsequence!!!0 = 3
supercoolfactorialsequence!!!n+1 = supercoolfactorialsequence!!!n!

My submission is supercoolfactorialsequence!!!M82589933. (yes, I'm also eliminating Mersenne numbers, why not. Hey wait a minute, they're about to announce a new prime?)

First, notice that supercoolfactorialsequence!!!n > 2↑↑n + 1:
  • supercoolfactorialsequence!!!0 = 3 > 2 = 2↑↑0 + 1
  • supercoolfactorialsequence!!!n+1 = supercoolfactorialsequence!!!n! > (2↑↑n + 1)! = product of [2, 3, 4, 5, ...] (2↑↑n elements) >= product of [3, 2, 2, 2, ...] (2↑↑n elements) = 3/2 * 2↑↑(n+1) >= 2↑↑(n+1) + 1
Thus, ß_4(4) = 2↑↑65536 < 2↑↑65536 + 1 < supercoolfactorialsequence!!!65536 < supercoolfactorialsequence!!!M82589933.
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PkmnQ

#7
...did I really have to post that just hours before they revealed M136279841?
Quickly, I must save the Q's!
Project EAPIDTOTT2TTNO's current target: 4n topic
A cool kid quietly measures the distance in the banquet (5). :/ B)
On a journey to a new domain full of enrichment, With auras and curses for your entertainment, The concept of collectibles spent to unblock your path, Is stretched far to create an interesting aftermath. The ideas start simple at their most plain, Followed by golden power breaking constraints, Along with barriers to check you've cleared things out, Although double vision puts their power in doubt. Why raise up when you can instead replace, And why take just some when you can completely erase? Replacing with nothing may sound like obliteration, But there's a good reason for its differentiation. Special colors that melt, fortify, and wash, And blockages not even gold can squash, A loft rumored to be haunted by a certain curse, And a metal whose purity demonstrates its worth. You've just reached amounts less than none, One thing is clear: It has only just begun.
Tip: Use c͢ombining cha͊racters, because ye᷂s.
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